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Alan Reynolds's avatar

The cited reference below to Keen and Lockwood makes a vital point about dynamic revenue estimates, and one that applies to new tariffs as it does to a new VAT. Namely, increases in tax rates on sales (or import sales) must reduce the tax base of income and payroll taxes and thus reduce their revenue yield. If a higher sales price (or tax) did not reduce the amount sold, and therefore the amount of income earned by sellers and their employees, then economics would have nothing to say.

With tariffs, this is a classic case of "what is seen" (revenue from the tariffs) and "what is not seen" (revenue lost -- from much more important taxes-- due to reduced economic activity in tariff-related sectors of the economy).

"Economists Michael Keen and Ben Lockwood’s cross‑country work finds that the long‑run increase in total revenue associated with VAT adoption is about 2.4% of GDP in one specification, implying that roughly two‑thirds of the VAT’s gross revenue comes at the expense of other taxes, and about 4.5% of GDP in a later paper."

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If a VAT were used in a mid-size Nordic country to allow prime-age responsible middle class workers to pay taxes to themselves (mostly smoothing unemployment and childcare expenses) then I'd be down with it.

But we all know what it's really going to do in America. It's going to add another tax onto young people trying to join the middle class and plow it straight into bloated retirement benefits and nursing homes among other low value add ideas that poll well.

I get why politicians really want to make older voters happy and a VAT might be sneaky enough to get us above 20% of GDP in federal taxes. Kicks the can down the road a little further, but to what end.

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